Timings of Wagner Preludes and Complete Operas

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"I always had quiet pity for those people witnessing the performances in the Festspielhaus with a stopwatch in their hands…" Karl Muck, Bayreuth, 13 April 1931

 

 

Timings Parsifal Vorspiel / Prelude Act 1

10'12" Herbert Kegel, Leipzig Radio Symphony Orchestra, 1978
10'23" Gustav Kuhn, Tiroler Festspiele, 2006
10'27" Pierre Boulez, Bayreuth, 1970 (Deutsche Grammophon)
10'57" Kirill Petrenko, Bayerische Staatsoper, München. Premiere 28 June 2018
11'03" Christian Thielemann, recorded at Staatsoper, Wien in June 2005 (Deutsche Grammophon)
11'05" Bruno Walter, Royal Philharmonic Orchestra (From the Album Orchestral Music - Beethoven, L. Van / Mendelssohn, Felix / Weber, C.M. Von (Studio Recordings - 1920's and 30's, Vol. 1) (Walter) (1924-1927))
11'08" Kirill Petrenko, Bayerische Staatsoper 8 July 2018
11'25" Bernard Haitink, Opernhaus Zürich, April 2007 (DVD)
11'26" Horst Stein, Bayreuth, 24 June - 15 July 1981 (DVD)
11'35" Erich Leinsdorf, SWR Sinfonieorchester (No year)
11'40" Kent Nagano, Baden-Baden, 6 and 8 August 2004 (DVD)
11'50" Hans Knappertsbusch, Bayreuth, 1958
11'56" Hans Knappertsbusch, Bayreuth, 1963
11'57" Hans Knappertsbusch, Bayreuth, 1962
12'00" Hartmut Haenchen, Amsterdam, 1993
12'00" Hartmut Haenchen, Paris, 2008
12'03" Armin Jordan (Hans-Jürgen Syberberg's Parsifal film, 1982)
12'03" Hans Knappertsbusch, Bayreuth, 1964
12'05" Herbert Von Karajan, Wiener Staatsoper 1961
12'07" Clemens Krauss, Bayreuth, 1953
12'07" Hartmut Haenchen, Copenhagen, 2012
12'07" Jun Märkl, Semperoper Dresden, 19.Februar 2006
12'08" Hans Knappertsbusch, Bayreuth, 1959
12'08" Hartmut Haenchen, Brüssel, 2011
12'15" Jaap van Zweden, Radio Philharmonic Orchestra. Concert performance.
12'15" Hans Knappertsbusch, Bayreuth, 1960
12'24" Philippe Jordan, Bayreuth 2012
12'31" Hans Knappertsbusch, Bayreuth, 1961
12'32" Hans Knappertsbusch, Bayreuth, 1956
12'41" Valery Gergiev, Marinski Orchestra 2010 (Marinskilabel)
12'47" Hans Knappertsbusch, Bayreuth, 1957
12'47" Daniele Gatti, Metropolitan Opera, 2 March 2013, live on BBC Radio 3
12'59" Felix Mottl, Freiburg, 1907, piano roll
13' Richard Wagner, Bayreuth, 25 December 1878 (Voss: Die Dirigenten der Bayreuther Festspiele)
13'03" Otto Klemperer, Philharmonia, 1960
13'06" Arturo Toscanini, NBC Symphony, 1940
13'15" Hans Knappertsbusch, Bayreuth, 1952
13'18" Daniele Gatti, Bayreuth, 2010 (Stefan Herheim's Parsifal production). In 2008 Gatti conducted the prelude one minute slower.
13'29" Hans Knappertsbusch, Bayreuth, 1954 (Melodram release timing. Seven Seas has 13'15" and Tara 13'35")
13'47" Daniel Barenboim, Berliner Philharmoniker, 1989-90. Available on Daniel Barenboim: Complete Wagner Operas (34 CD)
13'51" Reginald Goodall (EMI - 1984)
13'53" Hans Knappertsbusch, Berlin, 1943
13'57" Hans Knappertsbusch, Bayreuth, 31 July 1951
13'59" Fritz Busch, Buenos Aires, 1936
14'03" Wilhelm Furtwängler, Berlin, 1938
14'13" Hans Knappertsbusch, Bayreuth, July-August, 1951
14'14" Herbert von Karajan (1981, Deutsche Grammophon)
14'18" Fritz Reiner, New York, 1938
14'20" Daniele Gatti, Bayreuth, 2008. Premiere of Stefan Herheim's Parsifal production. Two years later, Daniele Gatti conducted the prelude one minute faster.
14'30" Richard Wagner, Munich, 12 November 1880
15'06" Arturo Toscanini, London, 1935
15'30" Artur Bodanzky, New York, 1938
15'35" Rudolf Kempe, Wiener Philharmoniker, 1958 (Seraphim). Concert ending.
15'53" Karl Muck, Berlin, 1927
16'23" James Levine, Bayreuth, July/August 1985
16'38" Erich Kleiber, New York, 1946

Sources: Jonathan Brown (Great Wagner Conductors), Per-Erik Skramstad, Hartmut Haenchen, Vic White, Pieter Berghs

Parsifal (complete) timings

3.38 Pierre Boulez, Bayreuth 1970
3.44 Clemens Krauss, Bayreuth 1953 (Jonathan Brown has 3.52)
3.49 Pierre Boulez, Bayreuth 1966
3.55 Hartmut Haenchen, Copenhagen 22 March 2012
3.58 Wilhelm Furtwängler, Milano 1951
4.02 Christian Thielemann, recorded at Staatsoper, Wien in June 2005 (Deutsche Grammophon)
4.04 Herman Levi, Bayreuth 1882
4.08 Michael Balling, Bayreuth 1904
4.10 Hans Knappertsbusch, Bayreuth 1962
4.12 Wilhelm Furtwängler Bayreuth 1936
4.15 Felix Mottl, Bayreuth 1888
4.17 Herbert von Karajan (1981, Deutsche Grammophon)
4.19 Anton Seidl, Bayreuth 1897
4.22 Siegfried Wagner, Bayreuth 1909
4.23 Fischer, Bayreuth 1882
4.23 Hans Knappertsbusch, Bayreuth 1952
4.25 Armin Jordan (Hans-Jürgen Syberberg's Parsifal film, 1982) (according to the cover)
4.27 Karl Muck, Bayreuth 1901
4.28 Hans Knappertsbusch, Bayreuth 1954
4.29 Kaehler, Bayreuth 1924
4.33 Hans Knappertsbusch, Bayreuth 1951
4.33 James Levine, Bayreuth 1990
4.42 Arturo Toscanini, Bayreuth 1931

Sources: Jonathan Brown (Great Wagner Conductors), Derrick Everett, Per-Erik Skramstad, Hartmut Haenchen.

"The Master has already composed Parsifal to be very slow, so one doesn't need to add to this by also conducting it slowly." (Richard Strauss to the orchestra during rehearsals)

Lohengrin Act 1 Prelude Timings

7’31” Arturo Toscanini, NBC Symphony, 29 December 1951
7'42" Erich Leinsdorf, Metropolitan, 2 January 1943 (CD)
7’44” Fritz Reiner, Pittsburgh Symphony, 1941
7’53” Arturo Toscanini, NBC Symphony, 17 March + 6 May 1941
8’04” Artur Bodanzky, Berlin State Opera Orchestra, 1927
8’05” Arturo Toscanini, NBC Symphony, 1954
8'07” Andris Nelsons, Bayreuth Festival, 2011
8’14” Bruno Walter, New York Philharmonic, 1944
8’18” Rafael Kubelik, Symphonieorch. des Bayerischen Rundfunks, 1971
8’19” Otto Klemperer, Budapest, 1948
8'22" Sir Adrian Boult, New Philharmonia Orchestra, 1958 (Seraphim)
8'27" Rudolf Kempe, Wiener Philharmoniker 1962-63 (CD)
8’30” Marek Janowski, Rundfunk-Sinfonieorchester Berlin
8’30” Bruno Walter, Columbia Symphony, 1959
8’30” Fritz Reiner, Chicago Symphony, 1960
8’31” Arturo Toscanini, NBC Symphony, 22 October 1951
8’33” Fritz Busch, Buenos Aires, 1936
8’35” Arturo Toscanini, New York Philharmonic,1936
8'36" André Cluytens, Bayreuth, 23 July, 1958 (CD)
8’36” Fritz Busch, New York, 1945
8'39" Kent Nagano, Baden-Baden, 2006 (DVD)
8’45” Fritz Busch, New York, 1947
8'50" Sebastian Weigle, Gran Teatre del Liceu, Barcelona, 2006 (DVD)
8’50” Arturo Toscanini, NBC Symphony, 22 February 1941
9’01” Wilhelm Furtwängler, Lucerne, 1949
9'04" Peter Schneider, Bayreuth Festival, 1990 (DVD)
9’05” Arturo Toscanini, NBC Symphony, 1938
9’05” Wilhelm Furtwängler, Lucerne, 1947
9’24” Arturo Toscanini, La Scala Orchestra, 1946
9’26” Fritz Reiner, Philadelphia Orchestra, 1932
9’35” Wilhelm Furtwängler, Berlin, 1930
9’45” Erich Kleiber, Copenhagen, 1953
9’45” Karl Böhm, Vienna, 1980
9’48” Wilhelm Furtwängler, Vienna, 1954
9’52” Otto Klemperer, Philharmonia, 1960
9’56” Karl Böhm,Vienna, 1965
10’02” Artur Bodanzky, New York, 1935
10'10" Joseph Keilberth, Bayreuth Festival, 1953 (CD)

Sources: Jonathan Brown: Great Wagner Conductors, Per-Erik Skramstad

Das Rheingold (complete) approximate timings

2.17 Heinz Tietjen, Bayreuth 1934
2.21 Siegfried Wagner, Bayreuth 1896
2.21 Michael Balling, Bayreuth 1909
2.22 von Hoesslin, Bayreuth 1927
2.23 Keilberth, Bayreuth 1953
2.23 Franz Beidler, Bayreuth 1904
2.25 Herbert von Karajan, Bayreuth 1951
2.26 Georg Solti, Wiener Philharmoniker 1958 (CD)
2.27 Gergiev
2.28 Michael Schønwandt (The Copenhagen Ring)
2.28 Marek Janowski 1980
2.29 Daniel Barenboim, Bayreuth 1991
2.31 Karl Richter, Bayreuth 1876
2.32 Felix Mottl, Bayreuth 1896
2.32 Lothar Zagrosek, Stuttgart Ring (DVD)
2.34 Daniel Barenboim, Bayreuth 1991 (DVD)
2.36 Wilhelm Furtwängler, Bayreuth 1936
2.39 Elmendorff, Bayreuth 1930
2.42 Hans Knappertsbusch, Bayreuth 1951
2.43 James Levine, Metropolitan 1990 (DVD)

Der Ring des Nibelungen

Sources: Richard Wagner Museum Bayreuth, CD booklets, Per-Erik Skramstad

 

 

Tristan und Isolde Timings (Complete with no cuts)

3.38 Böhm, Bayreuth, 1966 (DGG, CD)
3.44 Knappertsbusch, Munich, 1950
3.49 Carlos Kleiber, Bayreuth, 1974 (CD)
3.55 Furtwängler, Bayreuth, 1931
4.04 Mottl, Bayreuth, 1886
4.11 Toscanini, Bayreuth, 1930
4.15 Furtwängler, London, 1952
4.26 Bernstein, Munich, 1981 (Philips, CD)

Sources: Jonathan Brown: Great Wagner Conductors, Per-Erik Skramstad

 

Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg, Act 1 Vorspiel

07.18 Leo Blech, Musikstadt Berlin Tonfilm 1929
08.XX Richard Wagner, concert in Mannheim, 20.12.1871 (a few seconds more than 8 minutes, according to Richard Pohl)
08.06 Albert Coates, London, 1921
08.18 Fritz Reiner, Pittsburgh, 1941
08.20 Karl Muck, Berlin State Opera, 1927
08.28 Karl Böhm, New York, 1959
08.30 Hans Knappertsbusch, München, 1955
08.31 Albert Coates, London, 1926
08.36 Felix Weingartner, Wien, 1935
08.38 Wilhelm Furtwängler, Berliner Philharmoniker, AEG Worker Concert, 26.02.1942
08.41 Arturo Toscanini, NBC Symphony, 1946
08.42 Fritz Reiner. New York, 1938
08.42 Bruno Walter, New York, 1946
08.43 Artur Bodanzky, New York, 1936
08.45 Karl Böhm, Toronto Symphony, 1965
08.47 Karl Böhm, Sächsische Staatskapelle, 1939
08.50 Bruno Walter, Symphony Orchestra, 1930
08.53 Artur Bodanzky, Berliner Staatsoper Orchester, 10.9.1927
08.53 Hans Knappertsbusch, Wien, 1950
08.54 Arturo Toscanini, NBC Symphony, 1954
08.54 Karl Böhm, Bayreuth, 1964
08.55 Arturo Toscanini, Salzburg, 1936
08.58 Arturo Toscanini, La Scala, 1952
09.00 Hans Richter, London, 1879
09.00 Gustav Mahler, Brooklyn, New York, 1910
09.11 George Solti, Vienna Philharmonic (3.10.1994, Suntory hall, Tokyo)
09.11 Herbert von Karajan, Bayreuth Festival 1951
09.24 Herbert von Karajan, Dresden
09.37 Hans Knappertsbusch (N/A)
09.49 Christian Thielemann, recorded at Schloss Herrenchiemsee, Münchner Philharmoniker
09.53 Alain Altinoglu, Frankfurt Radio Symphony (20.3.2022)
10.55 Otto Klemperer, Philharmonia

Sources: Jonathan Brown (Great Wagner Conductors), Per-Erik Skramstad

“Wagner says that the Meistersinger prelude will without exception be taken too slowly. It should be a strong march tempo.” (Felix Mottl, Diary, 26.5.1876)